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Word List Update

by Novel Games
2020-12-20 14:53:52
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As some of you are well aware (and complained), we have recently updated the word lists of our games. The reason we do this in the first place is to increase the quality of the word list. In the past, abbreviations are sometimes allowed and some obscure words are included. Also, some easy and common words are missed out. We want to change that.

There are many words in this world. In Scrabble for example, there are more than 270000 words that can be accepted. It is inappropriate to use that list in our games, because in some games such as Word Grid and Word Scramble II, the player need to figure out all the words and it is simply wrong to request the player to know some of the most uncommon words.

After a lot of research, we decided to base our word list on use frequency data. So our list will only include words that are "quite common". However, there is no 100% accurate frequency data, so there are still some problems with our word list. We will listen to you and if there are words that you think should be included or should be removed, please let us know by posting in this thread.

In the future, we will update games like Word Grid and Word Scramble II so that you are only requested to make the words that are "quite common", and if you can make a word that is valid but not common, we will reward you with a special bonus. We believe this will be the best way to go. This change, however, is not simple. As there are just too many words in this world and we need to develop a new architecture and data structure and memory management in order to support that.

Thank you. And once again if you think some words should be added or removed, please post in this thread, thank you.
by Novel Games
2020-12-20 14:53:52
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Was it broken ??????
by Greg1
2020-12-21 01:14:09
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Ail, Ails, Lain, nit, nits, mope, mopes, runt, pert. I will add more as I find them rejected. If everyone does this we should be able to build up a good world list.
by Marnie Rogers
2020-12-21 09:02:04
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Thanks for the response, but the program was working so well before that I don't understand why a change was made in the first place. It was certainly not an improvement as can be seen by the comments by users who are NOT pleased with the change.
by Dominus
2020-12-21 09:19:48
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You used the phrase "quite common words", well then "DOE" "TINE" "LAIN" "HEW" "LEE" "ERE" "LAIN" "THO" etc are they not common words at all? Also a strange thing the word "OLE" is sometimes can be accepted but sometimes this word is "no such word"! Very strange and just wonder what is your standard for "common words", I'm rather confused.
by lailing
2020-12-21 14:24:37
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@lailing , "quite common" is based on the frequency of use in the frequency data. Apparently it is not very accurate. 

We have updated the word list and also added the feature about bonus words. I believe you should now be able to enjoy the game better.
by Novel Games
2020-12-22 10:51:28
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What does the "bonus" give us when we get the "bonus"? Thank you
by Jennifer Solis
2020-12-23 04:52:40
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@Jennifer Solis , you get an extra word. Therefore, you will rank higher if another player gets the exact same words as you but could not get the bonus word.
by Novel Games
2020-12-23 12:01:29
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Um. I just worked the puzzle, and a word I missed was "cunt". Do you really think this is an appropriate word? It is quite vulgar. I can provide a screen shot if you wish.
by Jennifer Solis
2020-12-25 07:02:09
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This is a huge task. Have you considered giving the players a direct access to the list ?
by educmat
2020-12-26 20:20:55
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(Translated by Microsoft) @Jennifer Solis , that word is not supposed to be there. Sorry about the error. We have updated the game.

Thank you for telling us about the problem.
(Original) @Jennifer Solis , that word is not supposed to be there. Sorry about the error. We have updated the game.

Thank you for telling us about the problem.
by Novel Games
2020-12-27 10:20:59
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Was the original word list made by translating a list of kanji?
by Piotr Grochowski
2021-01-15 05:15:50
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@Piotr Grochowski , no, of course not. It is not possible to create a word list by translating kanji
by Novel Games
2021-01-15 18:59:32
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by Piotr Grochowski
2021-01-18 04:46:47
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@Piotr Grochowski , I see. But no this is not a good way to create word lists.
by Novel Games
2021-01-18 13:32:22
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Exactly, which is why the word lost has been updated
by Piotr Grochowski
2021-01-18 14:19:22
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In reply to #16:
*list
by Piotr Grochowski
2021-01-18 14:19:42
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I just played the game but the game still lets you get to the c word. 
by TyphoonCarriage123
2021-01-22 08:52:01
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@TyphoonCarriage123 , can you tell me which game it is and which "c word" it is so that we can double check?
by Novel Games
2021-01-26 11:25:29
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 It missed out on `nimbus`. I still feel pretty good about my score, and want to smack myself for having missed `dub`?
by Minion of Solitude
2021-01-27 21:53:16
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Word transformer still allows you to get to cunt.
by TyphoonCarriage123
2021-01-29 23:40:48
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Like  the changes. Before some common words weren't accepted. Now they are. I also like the bonus words. Why aren't the following words accepted - 
gelled as in gelled hair, thymus (gland), dilled as in dilled carrots or dilled salmon??? . Ela

by Gookie
2021-01-30 19:48:08
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(Translated by Microsoft) @TyphoonCarriage123 , I see. In our word games inappropriate words have different levels. For the most inappropriate words, such as f*ck, it is completely removed from our dictionary, we pretend that the word does not exist. For less inappropriate words, we still recognize them, but they are not used actively. The word c*nt belongs to this category. 

In word transformer, that word will not be used as the start and target words, and is also not necessary in any step of the transformation. But if the player knows that word, it is still treated as valid.


(Original) @TyphoonCarriage123 , I see. In our word games inappropriate words have different levels. For the most inappropriate words, such as f*ck, it is completely removed from our dictionary, we pretend that the word does not exist. For less inappropriate words, we still recognize them, but they are not used actively. The word c*nt belongs to this category. 

In word transformer, that word will not be used as the start and target words, and is also not necessary in any step of the transformation. But if the player knows that word, it is still treated as valid.


by Novel Games
2021-02-02 18:36:25
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One of the properties of word list is that merging multiple word lists could be used to create a bigger word list. If we therefore keep track of words and which list they came from in a spreadsheet, the resulting word list could therefore be filtered by theme. This insight will allow personalizing word lists according to what is necessary for each particular game.
by Piotr Grochowski
2021-08-25 16:04:07
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I submitted a word list that I made in 2021-08-26.
by Piotr Grochowski
2022-02-28 21:35:43
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(Translated by Microsoft) Oh I see??
(Original) そうか??
by みっちー
2022-05-19 13:40:25
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(Translated by Microsoft) Thanksgiving

(Original) サンキュ

by みっちー
2022-05-19 13:40:50
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Why you ask this?
by GGY GTse (GEORGETSETHLHK1)
2023-08-20 15:44:07
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Very very very very
by GGY GTse (GEORGETSETHLHK1)
2023-08-20 15:45:09
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Very very very very very very er egregious very very very very very e Rey very very very very very very very 
SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!????????
by GGY GTse (GEORGETSETHLHK1)
2023-08-24 15:47:29
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In reply to #1:
I didn't complain, but would have, if I'd had the chance. As a 60 year old, I find the commenting process difficult to do.  Word grid is clearly based on American English, Australians tend to use British English, but surely both spellings could be included? 

One real gripe I have is the irritation of plurals that actually aren't allowed in any form of the English language. (English is just riddled with exceptions to spelling/grammatical rules.) Sorry, I can't think of any, nor did I make much of an attempt of recording my irritations, as I just wasn't sure it was worth the effort, with all the things happening in my personal life. Actually, this is worse in 'Crossword Scramble.')  American English includes some of these incorrect plurals, but not as many, as I have found in your puzzles at one time or another. Try checking the words against a dictionary, instead of using a frequency algorithm or technique.

Also, if we just allow 'common words', how are we to learn anything?
 In the past, I have definitely had some fun, looking up and posting (on Facebook) some of your short (3-4 letters) words, which are not really in common usage. It was educational - I love finding out new words and sharing the etymology with my friends on Facebook. it as also funny, with some older words. These puzzles can be a wonderful tool for education, if you allow words that are not often used. :) Otherwise, we are dumbing down our population.
Also, frequency of use can include words used that are incorrect, so this is a huge hazard you need to be aware of!

by Janet Appleyard
2024-01-26 14:43:24
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@Janet Appleyard , thank you for your suggestion. Our word games should include spellings of both American English and British English, and the plurals should be correct. If you find words that are incorrect or not included, can you send us a screenshot so that we can take a look and investigate?
by Novel Games
2024-01-29 11:15:33
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